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Rich Kurth's avatar

But what Terry said is true

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Shawn Meek's avatar

Of course it is! But just because something is true doesn’t mean you should say it.

Depending on the circumstances of course; no biggie for me to say that. But I’m not a professional, supposedly unbiased journalist.

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pj's avatar

telling the truth is unbiased...to think otherwise is nothing more than waffling and cowering

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Dutch's avatar

Just like the past 4 years with the JB cognitive impairment…..

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William m Gaffney's avatar

Dutch, my friend you seem to have two lines of attack (the stock market here’s your opening) and Biden’s mental fitness. McCarthy said in august, 2023, Biden was mentally sharp when dealing with the budget negotiations

We probably shouldn’t ever be a bar together. Everyone in unison would tell us to shut up

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Dutch's avatar

No, not just a two trick pony. I’ve got lots more to go….

The stock market is my passion as I’ve recently retired and now have the time, money and opportunity to devote a great deal of time to it. Got on a small tangent after Chris published a ridiculous article about April being the worst since 1932.

The other issue we agree on it not just JB’s mental decline but the coverup. That’s the real issue. Comments, like Terry Moron made, are at the heart of the matter. They could have just as easily come from Chuck Todd (who is never ever right btw) or anyone in the MSM. It’s funny to watch when the leftists expose themselves πŸ˜‚

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Daniel Ascher's avatar

You have obviously drank the MAGA Kool-aid. Sad.

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William m Gaffney's avatar

πŸ‘

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Stephen Mihaly's avatar

Yes but he should have kept it to himself as a journalist as he is not supposed to be espousing his personal opinions even if they are true.

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Rick Ellis's avatar

But isn't the point of calling balls and strikes to be honest about you see?

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Chris Cillizza's avatar

I see Miller as an ideologue. A very conservative one. But not someone who consumes hate.

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β€˜King Donald's avatar

Miller is clearly a psychopath. Clearly someone interfered with him as a child. His behavior now reflects that. When all this is done a Nuremberg style trial will hold him and other Trump cronies to account. In the meantime America will burn to the ground as Americans meet the moment and challenge the Trump regime. You are a failed journalist if you can’t tell the truth as Terry did. Jake Tapper is a great example of someone who went the other way and now carries water for Trump. And now has zero credibility.

We need more Terry’s. Chris.

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Kim Nesvig's avatar

IMHO Miller is one of the leading psychopaths in an administration led by a psychopath and largely composed of psychopaths. Simply attributing Miller’s public utterances and policy positions to ideology is grossly understating the harsh reality of the perilous time we live in. Granted, Terry’s comments belonged on the editorial page, not posted and deleted on X.

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Bob Smith's avatar

This is nonsense. There won't be any Nuremberg style trials. America will not burn to the ground. Jake Tapper doesn't carry water for Trump.

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β€˜King Donald's avatar

lol.

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Heidi B's avatar

But Chris isn’t this in and of itself your opinion? I’ve read your columns for years and sometimes I agree and sometimes I don’t. Why? Because you also express opinions. That said, Terry is right, what is happening is horrifying and we have to start saying so. In terms of journalistic integrity maybe it isn’t traditional but traditional left the building a long time ago.

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Bob Smith's avatar

Journalistic integrity is still in the room. And it's always been a problem for the extreme partisans on either end of the political spectrum.

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Rocket Master Man's avatar

Ideologue? The man is clearly a hate filled cyst. Was there a good side to Hitler? Does Putin get brownie points for good equestrian form? When the Foxies stretch the truth do we pat them on the head? America is at an inflection point. A major part of our country doesn't believe in the right to protest. Mango Mussolini is about to impose Martial law. Stephen Miller is leading the charge. Call him out.

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Sam's avatar

I think this is a very generous description of who and what Steven Miller is.

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James Ackerman's avatar

I mean, his policy history is one that only makes sense if you think he hates a certain subset of people

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Sheila's avatar

Trump and his sidekick Miller have been preaching division and hate for years now and also lying every day. I wish more journalist would speak the truth about this behavior and not sugar coat it. Remember in Trumps Memorial Day message when Trump referred to anyone who doesn't agree with him as SCUM? Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

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Rick Ellis's avatar

And that's a fair take.

OTOH, while I don't think it was a great idea for Moran to post that, what do you do as a journalist when that is your honest take on someone? And while I can't look in Stephen Miller's heart, he has certainly made enough comments about immigrants that describing him as being hateful towards immigrants isn't a crazy or even partisan issue.

So how does a journalist navigate that?

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Ellemm's avatar

I think Miller is a complicated and terrifying person. This is a Jew who declares that America is for Americans only -- seemingly forgetting that there an awful lot of people in the US who hate and distrust his kind and would keep him away from their daughters. Don't believe me? There are Christians out here in the Bible Belt who believe that Jews have horns. I am not making this up. (The deed to my house says it is not to be rented or sold to Negroes or Jews.) The people out here have no familiarity with Jews, but back then it was acceptable. So when our president talks about universities being antisemitic, he's talking about Israel, not the casual antisemites who are common in the heartland. If I were a Christian nationalist, I'd get rid of Miller in a second. (I mean he wouldn't have a place in the administration.) It's just amazing to me that he thinks he has a full pass to the White club.

Second, we should note that someone so ideologically rabid -- and he's not the only one -- would have had no chance of whispering in a president's ear even 10 years ago. We have changed. Nicer guys are losers and we are far more willing to say the quiet parts out loud. By the way, we *do* need border control. Somehow I get the feeling that it's mostly brown control, ginned up by people saying the Democrats need illegals to vote for them. I mean, we have a lot of *other* people here illegally and we don't talk about that. We also do not talk about how much we rely on the labor of these folks for agriculture, restaurant work, and construction. Are we going to be honest about that? No.

And, even though I agree with Moran's comments, he shouldn't have made them except as an independent analyst. So this is on him. His free speech rights are tempered by the fact that he works for a larger organization.

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GregPick's avatar

πŸ’―

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Paul Barry's avatar

You don't see the conservative policies he has pushed as hateful? Immigration, DEI, trans, USAID. So many of his policy proposals are based on hate of "the other." You might not see Moran as calling balls and strikes, but maybe he is looking at the game from a different angle.

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Jack Dalton's avatar

Well, then you obviously need to pay closer attention to what Miller says and does.

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Terri Geis's avatar

Please look at his attitude and the way he talks about people different than him. Sorry I disagree with you on this take.

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Elaine Seal's avatar

Respectfully disagree. I think Terry's description of Miller was 100% accurate.

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Elaine DeVoss's avatar

Are you kidding? You have to be the village idiot not to recognize his distain/hatred for everyone who is not white. He says it in every comment he makes and makes no bones about getting rid of the "]other". If you cannot glean his hatred, look to his policies about immigrants. Thank you, Terry, for telling the truth.

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Douglas's avatar

No Rick, it's to both sides it! Ya know just the way Putin does it....and many dictators. After all, we have to cover for authoritarianism. πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«

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You’re Not The Boss Of Me's avatar

We need Terry. Miller not so much.

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S.M. Yascolt's avatar

Terry Moran

Steve Miller

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Marc Shepherd's avatar

I think you're dead wrong about this, Chris. A person in power who is animated by hatred needs to be called out. Now, maybe you think that is not what *actually* animates Stephen Miller. Given that Terry Moran does, it needs to be shouted from the rooftops. That is what "calling balls and strikes" should be.

Of course, from Terry Moran's selfish POV as someone wanting to stay employed, it might not have been the correct career decision. But it was the correct moral one.

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Chris Cillizza's avatar

How do you know he is animated by hatred?

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Heather McNamara's avatar

seems like semantics. his views are hateful, so to hold his views one would be a hateful person. maybe he's not 'animated' by hate, but is that any different than being hateful?

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Jeff Hall's avatar

Talk to Olivia of Troye who has seen him and his wife up close. They are for whatever reason are just evil, nasty people.

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β€˜King Donald's avatar

Chris. This is not a smart question if you’ve been watching. Go and chat with Acosta, Darcy, other colleagues (other than Tapper lol) and get their perspective.

You have a consistent blind spot which is reflected by most posters responding to your position. You can learn from that.

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Rocket Master Man's avatar

When Chris trumpets his independence, this would be a great time to show it.

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β€˜King Donald's avatar

There’s a great book that everyone should read called β€œThe view from nowhere” By Thomas Nagel which tries to argue that while we have personal views shaped by our experiences, we also possess the ability to adopt a detached, objective viewpoint, which he refers to as the "view from nowhere." I’m not convinced that is possible. But an argument which is an attempt to be objective requires Chris to do far more work than he’s doing at the moment.

A discussion with people who have known both Millers reveal that they are hateful and have been for a long time.

Punishing journalists for saying what they think against the majority administration beautifully demonstrates the problem with American mainstream media. They are terrified of offending it. Because it invites punishment. Ironically it’s a theme CNNs Anderson Cooper has brought up too.

You either believe in the first amendment or you don’t.

Everything the Trump regime has done is an attack on Democracy. You are naive if you disagree with that. As Americans we are going to be on one side of that or the other.

What happens in the end? We will see. But history is written by the victors. And Nuremberg is a thing. Keeping Democracy is a very powerful motivator.

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Paul Barry's avatar

Bravo!

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Sam's avatar

Read any profile or watch any interview with him. It's disturbing

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Dave's avatar

Just listen to what Miller says and what he does.

He talks like Goebbels and has put that rhetoric into government action.

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Elaine Seal's avatar

Are you kidding? Look at his face, listen to his voice. It reeks of hatred, going back to when he was in high school and calling out the brown ladies in his cafeteria. I fear mostly for his children.

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Jack Dalton's avatar

You need to read more.

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Linda Lombardino's avatar

amen!

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Dave's avatar

If the goal is to call balls and strikes then Terry threw 3 strikes with one pitch and ABC struck out while looking. They could have simply said "this falls under our op/ed section and is not representative of the network." Miller is full of hatred. It is just observable fact. Hell, even John Oliver dug up old high school videos of him railing against janitors. The dude has so much hatred flowing through him even Emperor Palpatine would be like "dude, pump the brakes a little."

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Rocket Master Man's avatar

We've lost our minds.

Well you guys.

All that he wrote was the absolute irrefutable truth.

This utter crap that there are good people on both sides is nonsense.

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Douglas's avatar

Absolutely....

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Mike O'Neill's avatar

And yet, Stephen Miller is a world class hater and a despicable person.

I've been through the discussions that go like:

"Well, you say that because you don't agree with his policies." True, I think his policies and his defense of them are the policies and actions of a hater and a despicable person.

"Maybe he just portrays this image for political reasons or to stay in Trump's good graces". Sure - even more despicable, in my book.

"He's still a human being and you shouldn't talk like that about people." Once he puts himself out there in public, casting judgement on others, then yes, I should talk like this about him.

I guess we are saying that independent journalists shouldn't say things like this because it makes them seem less independent. It's a difficult problem but I do not think the answer is to ignore the fact that a totally despicable person is driving policies like this.

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Dutch's avatar

No, he just said the quiet part out loud

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Michael Holloway's avatar

Your response is part of the problem with the media today. There was nothing wrong about what Terry Moran wrote. It is true. Journalist should be committed to truth first. Not "balance" except when balance is appropriate. When one "side" is objectively wrong or evil, good journalism requires pointing it out. Over and over and over and over. Journalists are as much responsible for the mess we're in as any other single group.

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Ron Watson's avatar

I do not agree with you at all. I think Terry was simply reporting what he has seen. Maybe in a more stern voice than others but I view what he has done as nothing more than calling balls and strikes. Of course my comments will be dismissed as me being partisan.

We need more journalists who are going to be brave enough to speak out when necessary.

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CE's avatar

This administration, including the president, has called me, and β€œmy kind” scum, vermin, a marxist,and a traitor. None of these things are true, but these people have the right to say them because we live in a country in which FREE SPEECH IS A CORE VALUE. We have allowed Nazis and β€œProud boys” to parade in our streets because we value the strength of our democracy to withstand even that. We allow things like the β€œDaily Stormer” to exist because freedom to express one’s views, even odious ones, has made our country strong. Journalist’s ability to speak truth to power is precious. And to say that β€œTerry Moran shouldn’t have said that” and ask us to all agree to that is pathetic. This Trump administration and its appeasers and supporters will live forever in infamy as history records their words and deeds. The suspension of Moran is antiAmerican and no one should pretend otherwise. Someday Chris may wish to call more than β€œballs and strikes” and may be taken down because the Terry Morans of journalism are no longer there to uphold our Constitutional values. No balls and strikes reporting…the reporting will be either all home runs or silence, as dictated by a rogue administration

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Howard's avatar

So you don’t differentiate between those who are trying to hold on to our fragile democracy and those trying to destroy it?

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Douglas's avatar

Bingo Howard....this is exactly how the media is a big part in walking the nation into dictatorial authoritarianism. Cause 'fascism' is way too harsh and not fair to the other side. 🀨

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Ernie's avatar

Just wanna know when Miller shows the country his white supremacist face. He always gave me the creeps when he is interviewed and you can see the fire in his eyes, especially when he is speaking of or to people of color. There’s a reason so many refer to him as Goebbels.

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Howard Seidel's avatar

Journalists β€œwho don’t root for one side or the other”? I am a fan Chris but when one side continually attacks journalism, spreads disinformation, and calls out good journalist because they ask tough questions, I would hope and expect journalists to root for democracy. That the problem with this second try on term. In an effort to be β€œfair” (or not receive punishment from the administration that has zero respect for journalistic freedoms) there is a lot of holding back and false equivalencies occurring.

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Chris Cillizza's avatar

To be clear: Joe Biden and his people attacked journalists constantly over the age questions.

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Paul Barry's avatar

Close your laptop, throw your phone across the room, and step back for awhile. Comparing the Biden administrations attacking journalists over the age question and the Trump teams treatment of journalists and the media is quite a stretch. If you want to call balls and strikes on this please open your eyes as to what is going on.

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Howard Seidel's avatar

Which was wrong too! And democrats ultimately paid for it. There has always been that kind of interplay between politicians and the press. But I’d put it qualitatively in a different category than what is happening currently on the right.

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Mr. Bee's avatar

Chris, Your "What about ism" reply here leads me to believe you might be biased and possibly not objectively calling the balls and strikes that you think are.

Since you went down this road I feel compelled to point out that despite the Biden administration dislike for tough journalist questions regarding his age, they never sued the networks, requested journalists be fired, or threatened to take away FCC licenses.

Do you really think they are equivalent? I'm seriously asking.

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Hawaii Brewer's avatar

And here we go...."what about Joe Biden and his people....." The same old bullsh*t, "what aboutism", you claim to to dislike.

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Linda Lombardino's avatar

What is wrong with you tonight?

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Douglas's avatar

It's like when that CEO of the NYT said it wasn't their job to defend democracy. Any position like that in America should be condemned

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Nancy T's avatar

You are leaving out the part of Karoline Levitt contacting ABC and demanding Moran be disciplined. There should be no tolerance of the federal government interfering in the free press in this manner.

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Diane Chadwick's avatar

Maybe you haven’t noticed that the country has changed since Trump was elected, Terry Moran was absolutely correct in his assessment of Miller! We need people to stand up to power and SPEAK OUT!! Trump is dying to call for martial law in this Country…and meanwhile folks are still talking about Biden decline! WAKE UP before it’s too late!

On June 14 trump will officially become a dictator as he presides over his military parade like every good dictator does!

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Dan Holm's avatar

I agree. The goalposts have moved, mainly because this current administration has moved them. Journalists need to stand up to them and call them out.

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